Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

[vladsmythe]

Originally Posted by AAR.oner

i can only upload at 40k/s and have no problem keeping a decent ratio

and anyone who can doenload a TB can easily upload their fair share *if* they wanted to...period

anything else is just a poor excuse

You're absolutely right. I have already admitted that I'm a bad member. I'll try to work on my ratio. I'm sorry it took this "intervention". I know it's just "Tough Love". One day at a time....

[dementrium]

Originally Posted by ShutTheFuckUpDonny

I think it's an all together bad idea. Not that my oppinion really matters. I'm working on my ratio now and can only upload at 40kbs a second so it takes time for people like me.

***WHINY POST WARNING***

Only at 40 KB/s!? Are you kidding.

Most of 2006 I had 8 KB/s. Later, "they" "upgraded" us (with a big fanfare & bells) to 16 KB/s (B.S.). Naturally, we only pay $ 66 / month.

Of course, any time of the day I can do the next step and get the top-of-the-line ultra mega enterprise fixed-ip non-disconnecting-every-12-hours service.
Glance it in the picture.

(Gotta love socialism & monopolies, in any order)

i don't think anybody should get banned for their ratio but i do think that people that have never uploaded a torrent should not be able to post in threads. what do you guys think?

[rspencer]

I think that would make it quite difficult for the bandwidth challenged to continue vining & doing B&Ps.

I also think it might be a bit difficult to post that first torrent without being able to post.

[vladsmythe]

rspencer, that was a very good point...

[vladsmythe]

Originally Posted by radfordaj23

i don't think anybody should get banned for their ratio but i do think that people that have never uploaded a torrent should not be able to post in threads. what do you guys think?

I think it's a very honest point you make.

[starchild67]

anyone who makes music downloading political is a nut, politics and music don't go together. i think you have way to much time to spend on nonsense , flac sucks by the way

[Hell Yeah]

On my side of things, I can seed only what I download. I have Comcast and they won't let me seed my own torrent for some reason. I have tried on many different trackers and get the same result. Keeping a high ratio is quite tough but not impossible as long as I watch what I download.

A ban on posting in threads would not be a wise decision as that will just create a community of leechers who may never be able to post their own torrent due to restrictions from their IP provider. and then they won't be able to explain themselves if questioned plus you can forget about people saying "thanks"

There is no clear solution as everything you decide becomes political. This is a great community please don't destroy it with more rules.

I read about this ingenious method to seed a torrent if you can't normally seed one because of an ISP preventing it:

-Create the .torrent file as normal, with every file that goes with the show
-When you seed the show, move one file (like the .txt or .ffp file) from the show folder to a different location on your hard drive. Everyone will get to 99.9%
-now that everyone is at 99.9%, remove a different file from the show folder, but add the missing original file
-Voila! everyone completes their download, and you have never shown more than 99.9% complete

[vanalan09]

It makes no differece to my internet provider All up or down bytes count toward my total up and down for the month Wich is 100 G. This costs me X- Dollars a month.So if I want to keep my ratio even, Half of my X - dollars per month pays for my upload ratio .So why do you want to punish the seeders and reward the thoughtless leechers ?Last time i checked you can get internet via sat dish anywhere in Usa and Canada .Its called dishnet so lets stop blaming ISP providers for your poor ratios and switch to a system that allows you to seed .This ain't a welfare line baby .

[Hell Yeah]

Originally Posted by vanalan09

It makes no differece to my internet provider All up or down bytes count toward my total up and down for the month Wich is 100 G. This costs me X- Dollars a month.So if I want to keep my ratio even, Half of my X - dollars per month pays for my upload ratio .So why do you want to punish the seeders and reward the thoughtless leechers ?Last time i checked you can get internet via sat dish anywhere in Usa and Canada .Its called dishnet so lets stop blaming ISP providers for your poor ratios and switch to a system that allows you to seed .This ain't a welfare line baby .

I for one, am locked into Comcast as it is part of a shared network of which I have no control over. So, getting another Internet server is completely out of the question for me unless the entire network wants to switch providers.

So you see, your hostility won't change what cannot be fixed as simply as you stated.

[vanalan09]

No hostility intended Hell Yeah, other peoples ratios are not my business . I have a neighbor with an 18 sat dish for internet ,works almost anywhere he says.But I do agree with you 100 % , people who can't change providers like comcast should not be penalized in any way .

[vladsmythe]

Originally Posted by vanalan09

No hostility intended Hell Yeah, other peoples ratios are not my business . I have a neighbor with an 18 sat dish for internet ,works almost anywhere he says.But I do agree with you 100 % , people who can't change providers like comcast should not be penalized in any way .

I'm with you valhala, I mean vanilla. Ban them I say! After all, they're THOUGHTLESS! THIS AINT THE WELLFARE LINE OBAMA-LOVIN" LOSERS!

Originally Posted by Tubular

I read about this ingenious method to seed a torrent if you can't normally seed one because of an ISP preventing it:

-Create the .torrent file as normal, with every file that goes with the show
-When you seed the show, move one file (like the .txt or .ffp file) from the show folder to a different location on your hard drive. Everyone will get to 99.9%
-now that everyone is at 99.9%, remove a different file from the show folder, but add the missing original file
-Voila! everyone completes their download, and you have never shown more than 99.9% complete

revised:

-Create the .torrent file as normal, with every file that goes with the show
-Before you seed the show, move one file (like the .txt or .ffp file, I'll call it file A) from the show folder to a different location on your hard drive.
-Start seeding; lots of people will get to 99.9%
-Now that lots of people are at 99.9%, stop seeding the torrent (hit the red square) and remove a different file (I'll call it file B) from the show folder. Add file A back into the show folder. Before you start seeding again, make sure your client is set to not download file B, as this would make you a seeder and then you might not be able to seed out file A
-Resume seeding, and voila! everyone completes their download, and you have never shown more than 99.9% complete

[possessed]

Originally Posted by U2Lynne

Not everyone cares about ratios. I know I'm not crazy about them and don't 'penalize' those who have low ratios. But, it does matter to some people.

I fully understand that not everyone can have a high ratio. But The few that download 800GB and only upload 36GB are not helping. GE used to fire it's bottom 10% performing employees annually. This encouraged a better performance out of all it's employees. Maybe if we employed such tactics more people would either try to stay connected or learn why they are firewalled/blocked/ISP limited etc.