What are Site Admins allowed to do with donations?

[Sid]

Originally Posted by spiritinaphoto

Oh, there's a typo I've seen repeated that is bugging me...it is "perk", not "perc". "Perc" would probably be short for percocet, which might be considered a "perk" for various druggies.

I like perc better...

[dcbullet]

Shouldn't it be perq?

[Sid]

Originally Posted by zombfuckingsucks

It is a sale because a proposition is made.
(i.e. I'll do A if you give me B)

If this were not the case, prostitution and the sale illegal drugs could be passed off as perks for donation.

It would be a sale if the only way to get the bootleg was by purchasing it ...what about the thousands of copies that members get for free.
Just for being a member they get the same bootlegs for free as the contributors do. I don't belong to any site that says give me 10 dollars or you can't download here.

Thousands of members download away without saying thanks,uploading a show or commenting...their only contribution to the trading community is their computers bandwidth.

So why not give contributing members some extra benefits ?



By the way if you know someone who is giving away free drugs please inform me

Originally Posted by dcbullet

Shouldn't it be perq?

There's no 'q' in percocet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percocet

[dcbullet]

perquisite

[possessed]

pirq, perck, pirc, perrc

[Sid]

Am I out of line here...
Does anyone else get what I'm saying...or am I pissin' into the wind.

[saltman]

Originally Posted by Sid

Am I out of line here...
Does anyone else get what I'm saying...or am I pissin' into the wind.

I'm with you.

[Phishblowz]

Originally Posted by spiritinaphoto

Of course, there's another problem all of you people so adamant on everyone sharing to 1.0 or better seem to miss...it is impossible for everyone to seed to 1.0. For every amount of data beyond the original size of the torrent the seeder shares, it makes it even more difficult for everyone else to get a good ratio, because that's data they could have shared. And the more people you have with share ratios that are significantly above 1.0, the more more uberleechers it will produce. Because the ubersharers shared so much data, there may not be an opportunity for lesser-equipped sharers to share what they have back.

now that's a cop out...maybe once in a while you MIGHT not be able to get to a 1.0 ratio on a torrent, but most every torrent that dies has hangers on that are left hangin...it's rare that a torrent dies because no one wants it anymore (especially in the video realm) between sharing and reseeding there is no excuse that explains not being able to...I can understand it being a pain in the ass (most certainly) but it can always be done...either pick a dying torrent, hop on a new torrent while it's fresh, or reseed and older one...not that it's required...and not that you "deserve" to be bashed for not being in lockstep with the 1.0 crowd, but it's not fair to blame society or any of that nonsense...if that's the best you care to do, that's fine, but it's a cop out to say this is all I can do...even the uberleechers could do more if we wanted to...there's just a limit to how much everyone cares to do...some people find their limit below 1.0 and some far above...quite frankly I was both...I took all I wanted from these sites when I started and let the ratio stay around .5 until I had enough to satisfy me (which I'm still takin more...but far less than before) and now because of downloading less, my upload caught up (and them some) it all comes down to the amount of effort you wanna put in it...it doesn't make you a bad person to share less than 1.0 but it is inappropriate to make us believe that it is out of your control...just my opinion though...to each their own...I try not to harbor resentment against anyone for these things anymore, so I don't care what people do, but I think it's only fair to be honest...if you did as much as you wanna do and it's okay with you than you should stand up for it and not make excuses and just say you feel you did as much as you feel obligated to do and stand by it...there's nothing wrong with it unless you make excuses...but what do I know...I do my best to live and let live these days so I don't wanna cast judgement, but I'm just callin em as I see em

[U2Lynne]

What she is saying is that it is actually IMPOSSIBLE for a site to have everyone with a ratio of at least 1.0, with so many also having over 1.0. That just can't happen. Someone made a long post with all the math and stuff at one point. I should have saved the link cuz I don't feel like writing out a math proof right now.

And Sid, no you aren't out of line. Sure, we don't offer up any perks (or percs ) to those who donate, but I don't know that it's necessarily wrong for some sites to offer some small perks (although obviously some people think any perk is totally wrong). I think I may argue with some about what exactly constitutes a 'small' perk vs something a bit over-the-line.

[dcbullet]

Originally Posted by U2Lynne

What she is saying is that it is actually IMPOSSIBLE for a site to have everyone with a ratio of at least 1.0, with so many also having over 1.0. That just can't happen.

Some people just aren't good at math Lynne.

[Sid]

Originally Posted by U2Lynne

Sure, we don't offer up any perks (or percs ) to those who donate, but I don't know that it's necessarily wrong for some sites to offer some small perks (although obviously some people think any perk is totally wrong). I think I may argue with some about what exactly constitutes a 'small' perk vs something a bit over-the-line.

I can see your point about crossing that ___line. I remember a site that crossed that line and it disappeared rather quickly after crossing it.


Just letting you know that I was'nt suggesting that you add perks here because I enjoy it the way it is.
I was just stating that some do & some don't.
I take advantage of some perks & others I don't.

[direwolf-pgh]

Originally Posted by Sid

I can see your point about crossing that ___line. I remember a site that crossed that line and it disappeared rather quickly after crossing it.

that ____line sure sounds like a gray area

[Phishblowz]

as long as there are people stranded on torrents, there are opportunities to improve the ratio...FWIW the uploader of the JGB 11-12-91 is having to reload the show to help a friend get it because 7 are hangin...there's always room for improvement...maybe it's true that EVERYONE may not be able to make a 1.0, but there's enough to go around that everyone who WANTS to have a 1.0 can obtain it...some need to try harder than others (based on upload speeds) but it can be done...just my opinion...again I don't care if you do it or not...but it CAN be done

[Sid]

Originally Posted by direwolf-pgh

that ____line sure sounds like a gray area