Death Star Groove AND mp3?

[taygan]

Check this one out. I'm guessing a very bad resmaple (from what??) and then probably mp3? The 16kHz line looks blocky, but not like most of the other mp3s I've been looking at. It's just plain ugly.

[Five]

looks like 32kHz DAT > SB Live! imo

not too pretty, but I've seen worse!

[ssamadhi97]

Haha, oh hell no.

Random 22.05kHz source with cutoff at 10kHz (maybe an mp3 already?) > crappy resampling to 44.1kHz > mp3 or similar lossy encoding

How the heck did that happen? Webcast maybe? I guess it sounds as ugly as it looks, too...

[Five]

I disagree... what encoder settings give that kind of a SA signature?

is it possible to get a yousendit sample of this audio? 10-20 seconds? I'd like to hear if this has that lossy sslur to it.

mp3 sources normally have a signature like this (right?):

[taygan]

Yes, it does have a lot of sound artifacts, definitely a web-cast sound.

here's the sample:

http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1V...31B99WJG4R310D

[Five]

I was wrong... this is lossy as f*ck. I can see it & hear it now.

[ssamadhi97]

Originally Posted by Five

I disagree... what encoder settings give that kind of a SA signature?

Pretty much what I described... low bitrate encode of a 22050Hz mp3 may introduce a 10kHz lowpass for example; then mediocre resampling adds the "flipped" content above 11025Hz (and leaves the black hole between 10kHz and 12kHz); and finally another round of lossy perceptual encoding introduces the "skyline" around 16kHz.


PS: Five, I hope my "oh hell no" above didn't offend you in any way. I was actually referring to the SA of this track there, but upon rereading that post I noticed that it's very easy to misunderstand.

[Five]

no harm

good eye!