Why don't you visit the Lounge @ TTD? (public poll)

[Marc]

Because I think it will do as much for change here as the three threads in this forum have done.

[paddington]

agree

[Gary Glitter]

i doubt i'm legally old enough to vote, so i won't.

certainly the best thread i've read in years.

i reckon loads of the bullies would love a chance to start again, turn a new page, consolidate all of their aliases into a new singular identity that had no history, no gripe with anyone, nothing to prove, and no scores to settle.

but there are dark forces lurking in the site's nebulous infrastructure. if those dark forces aren't prepared to let go the past, and they are in possession of certain powers, they can push you back into the hate-fuelled shenanigans that laid waste to your reputation previously.

of course, the majority of the powerful -- often invisible -- controllers are good at what they do, and driven only by honourable intentions. but what if a rogue element were to monitor your attempt to singularize your identity and change your ways, and then purposefully drive you back into the badlands (so that you became the Clint Eastwood character in Unforgiven). you know... you wanted to climb out of the pit, to lose the aliases and get chatting nicely with some new faces about the rock n roll, the zeppelin, the jazz, but the dark forces dragged you back into the pit.

and when they dragged you back in, they grabbed your trousers and pulled them down a little, exposing some of your arse. of course, passers-by will assume you're a site-labourer or a mechanic. they won't want to know what really inspires you.

if i think back to when i first joined the site, the Lounge was a million times better than it is now. there was an edginess, but it was great fun. one big change since then (IMHO) is that the big personalities from back then don't post as much as they used to.

another change, though, and the one that i believe has led to the rise of this particular thread, is that unitiated members seem more inclined to label aliases as Trolls these days, whereas in the past the vibe was such that people generally assumed that Aliases were created as characterizations serving purely comedic purposes.

obviously a small number of people that don't understand (or appreciate) characterization and the comedic purposes will instinctively refer to an alias as a Troll, but there were very few members like that back in, say, 2006, while there seems to be a lot more of them now; and, if there are more of them at a time when only about 30 or so people post regularly, it obviously creates a situation in which the old-style comedic-characterization-aliases fair pretty badly.

looking back into Lounge history there was one character progression (lineage) that i will never forget, and that was the TVHead>?>Dirt Shoes>Marshall Applewhite sequence. to me, this was classic Lounge, classic internet, and absolutely priceless... it would be a great shame if the members who view aliases only as Trolls were to represent the most prevalent opinion, because they would make such enjoyable Lounge moments impossible.

i also loved Mr T.

also, just having Lynne posting regularly in the Lounge as a willing participant kept things kinda cool. when the cat's away, the glamour puss will play.

[daddyray]

wise words GG....help yourself to some bitchin' Hawkwind

[The Wicker Man]

Originally Posted by Gary Glitter

i doubt i'm legally old enough to vote, so i won't.

certainly the best thread i've read in years.

i reckon loads of the bullies would love a chance to start again, turn a new page, consolidate all of their aliases into a new singular identity that had no history, no gripe with anyone, nothing to prove, and no scores to settle.

but there are dark forces lurking in the site's nebulous infrastructure. if those dark forces aren't prepared to let go the past, and they are in possession of certain powers, they can push you back into the hate-fuelled shenanigans that laid waste to your reputation previously.

of course, the majority of the powerful -- often invisible -- controllers are good at what they do, and driven only by honourable intentions. but what if a rogue element were to monitor your attempt to singularize your identity and change your ways, and then purposefully drive you back into the badlands (so that you became the Clint Eastwood character in Unforgiven). you know... you wanted to climb out of the pit, to lose the aliases and get chatting nicely with some new faces about the rock n roll, the zeppelin, the jazz, but the dark forces dragged you back into the pit.

and when they dragged you back in, they grabbed your trousers and pulled them down a little, exposing some of your arse. of course, passers-by will assume you're a site-labourer or a mechanic. they won't want to know what really inspires you.

if i think back to when i first joined the site, the Lounge was a million times better than it is now. there was an edginess, but it was great fun. one big change since then (IMHO) is that the big personalities from back then don't post as much as they used to.

another change, though, and the one that i believe has led to the rise of this particular thread, is that unitiated members seem more inclined to label aliases as Trolls these days, whereas in the past the vibe was such that people generally assumed that Aliases were created as characterizations serving purely comedic purposes.

obviously a small number of people that don't understand (or appreciate) characterization and the comedic purposes will instinctively refer to an alias as a Troll, but there were very few members like that back in, say, 2006, while there seems to be a lot more of them now; and, if there are more of them at a time when only about 30 or so people post regularly, it obviously creates a situation in which the old-style comedic-characterization-aliases fair pretty badly.

looking back into Lounge history there was one character progression (lineage) that i will never forget, and that was the TVHead>?>Dirt Shoes>Marshall Applewhite sequence. to me, this was classic Lounge, classic internet, and absolutely priceless... it would be a great shame if the members who view aliases only as Trolls were to represent the most prevalent opinion, because they would make such enjoyable Lounge moments impossible.

i also loved Mr T.

also, just having Lynne posting regularly in the Lounge as a willing participant kept things kinda cool. when the cat's away, the glamour puss will play.

God Damn it, I thought you were TV.

[AAR.oner]

GG just made a sensible, well put post...that wasn't about glam, glitter, or young boys

[uninvited94]

I never counted if I posted more in- or outside the Lounge, but I´m sure, most of my posts happened in the proper ABT/VBT-sections and the Piano Bar. It might have something to do that I don´t have a say in many of the topics - American Politics, American Sports - and not how it is moderated. I don´t even have an alias so far.

[rspencer]

Get with the program, Ollie.

[Fuzzy_Poodle]

I'm just here for the music.

[Gary Glitter]

Originally Posted by AAR.oner

GG just made a sensible, well put post...that wasn't about glam, glitter, or young boys

glam and glitter are my stock and trade, to be fair.
innit?

[Drgiggles1]

Originally Posted by jameskg

you would like the thread called "Why don't you visit the Lounge?" to be placed in the lounge?

I put it here so people who don't usually go in the Lounge might see it.

I got a good kick out of your comment James. Thanks for the laugh. Only because I did not see it here either. Someone who has a woman suffering dependency issues now, I needed the laugh. I personally don't visit the lounge much because I use to be a mod on Piranha Fury website and between this economy kicking me in the ass and the moderating I got burned out literally so I have no desire to visit it much. That would be my reason in a nutshell. Just enjoying the music for now.

[AAR.oner]

there's music at this site?!?!

[paddington]

Originally Posted by Drgiggles1

I got a good kick out of your comment James. Thanks for the laugh. Only because I did not see it here either. Someone who has a woman suffering dependency issues now, I needed the laugh. I personally don't visit the lounge much because I use to be a mod on Piranha Fury website and between this economy kicking me in the ass and the moderating I got burned out literally so I have no desire to visit it much. That would be my reason in a nutshell. Just enjoying the music for now.

thanks for the feedback

[jabulon]

Originally Posted by uninvited94

It might have something to do that I don´t have a say in many of the topics - American Politics, American Sports -

+1. Plus the fact that I'm in a different time zone than most Loungers, that I don't always get or understand the in-crowd jokes. But I do visit the Lounge from time to time, to read a couple of the threads that I like, to have a good laugh and then move back to the music part or move on.

[The Wicker Man]

It really depends what you are looking for. If you want a really civil discussion place, then enforce the rules, ban aliases, etc. There are plenty other sites where that is done and the discussions are civil, semi-entertaining and more populated, if not a little more boring.


If you want to enforce the rules, the (us) regulars will freak out, bitch, moan and complain, cry censorship, etc. After about 3 weeks we will either abide or move on. Everyone hates change, but if that is the goal of the site to see if it recruits more peeps, then why not try it and see.

It is not like it will have any effect on the mission or purpose of the site. I just think most members could care less about the lounge, it would be interesting to see what would happen.

Would there be any detriment to cleaning the lounge up anyway? Since when is chasing post whores away a bad thing?

I mean if the Lounge cleans up before Charlie Sheen?