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Bottle Rockets show: mp3 or not?
Hi everyone,
I got a question about a Bottle Rockets show: 12th Warren Haynes Annual Christmas Jam 2000/12/21 I am not sure if my copy is mp3-sourced. I did a frequency and spectral analysis with EAC with a whole song and with a two-second-snippet and what I see looks very much like a haircut at about 18 kHz to me. I get the same dropoff at 18k with Spectrascope, Analfreq and Audacity. Attached you find the SA and FA from EAC (2-sec-snippets) as well as the result from spectrascope (10 seconds, same song, but a different snippet). I got the disc in a trade and know nothing about lineage but on db.etree.org the lineage below is given for the whole event (the BRox show was one of many and is part of a six-CD-set). Recording info: Microtech Gefell's M210> Oade P/S> SBM1> D-8 11th Row, Seat 7, DFC Recorded by Jim Baadshaug, Mike Hassell, and Al Booth Mastered by Bob Bradshaw Mastering info: 1. Sony PCM R-500 DAT Recorder Digital out> AES Digital in of 2. TC Electronic Finalizer Plus Mastering Processor (TC used only as an D/A Converter in this case) TC ANALOG Insert Send > 3. Focusrite MixMaster Analog Mastering Processor> (Used for Multi-band compression,Program EQ, and Stereo Balancing) 4. Emperical Labs EL-7 FATSO Analog Tape Simulator and Optimizer> (Used for creating analog tape "warmth" as well as level shifting and other signal processing). 5. Studer D-19 Preamp and A/D Converter The Studer has a high quality tube signal path that was bypassed for this application. (In the insert of the Studer I have an SPL Vitalizer "Psycho-Acoustic Equalizer" which adds punch and clarity without specifically boosting/cutting frequencies like a traditional EQ. This device is also used for stereo image enhancment). 6. Finally, (whew!) the AES digital out of the Studer feeds an Alesis MasterLink Mastering Recorder/CD Burner, which is used for creating the CD tracks, fades, and assembling the order of tracks on the discs, as well as the burning. Any suggestions? Thanks a lot Thomas No members have liked this post.
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Re: Bottle Rockets show: mp3 or not?
Here are FA and SA from EAC for the whole song
Thanks again Thomas No members have liked this post.
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Re: Bottle Rockets show: mp3 or not?
Mind uploading a small sample? EAC's spectral view is pretty bad.
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Re: Bottle Rockets show: mp3 or not?
Not at all, here's a ten second snippet in flac.
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Re: Bottle Rockets show: mp3 or not?
that's strange... looks exactly like this one:
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...ad.php?t=25317 It looks lossy, and not like any MD I've seen/known of. I've seen this codec before, but I don't know what it is.
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Re: Bottle Rockets show: mp3 or not?
Five, are you referring to the image that I posted w/ D100 in it's stated lineage?
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Re: Bottle Rockets show: mp3 or not?
yes, that's right. they look very similar
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Re: Bottle Rockets show: mp3 or not?
can someone explain to me what bottlerockets is, cause i got a farina set called bottle rockets-hit me back
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Re: Bottle Rockets show: mp3 or not?
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